TV licence Overview 2016

TV licence Overview 2016

In 2016, there were 184,595 people charged for TV licence offences (including out of court disposal in Scotland); 15,522 less than in 2015.

temp

PROSECUTIONS PER CAPITA

Prosecutions are above the combined UK average in Wales and below average in Scotland.

 

TV Licence Prosecutions & out of court disposal Per Capita, 2016
Countries England Scotland Wales Northern Ireland TOTAL
159,573 7,939 12,055 5,028 184,595
Population

(in million)

53.01 5.295 3.065 1.811 63.181
Per 1,000 people 3 1.5 3.9 2.8 2.9

 

POLICE FORCE AREAS, LOCAL AUTHORITIES, AND COURT DIVISIONS WITH THE MOST SUSPECTED EVADERS IN 2016:

 

  1. Cleveland 28,984 (24,888 more than in 2015)
  2. Warwickshire 24,062 (9,502 more)
  3. London 19,529 (5,547 less)
  4. Greater Manchester 11,803 (1,162 less)
  5. South Wales 9,271 (2,622 less)

 

The change is likely to be due to the closure of courts (a centralisation that started a few years ago).

 

 

WOMEN

The BBC was alerted a few years ago to the fact that the current TV licence prosecution regime penalises women disproportionately but they haven’t changed a thing since then because they are a dinosaur incapable of compassion, introspection or change. If anything, the disproportion slightly increased in 2016.

 

TV Licence Convictions Per Gender, 2016
Countries England  Scotland Wales Northern Ireland TOTAL
Women 101,263 5,749* 7,775 2,658 117,445
Men 39,502 2,190* 3,157 986 45,835
Total 140,765 7,939* 10,932 3,644 163,280
Percentage of women 71.9% 72.4% 71.1% 72.9% 71.9%

*including out of court disposals

 

UNSUCCESSFUL CASES

In total, 21,312 people were unnecessarily brought to court last year. This equates to nearly 1 in every 8 cases. This number of unsuccessful prosecutions lends weight to the view that cases are initiated on a speculative basis whereby it is hoped by the BBC that people will plead guilty or won’t contest the prosecution. This surely is a scandalous abuse of the courts’ process by the BBC.

 

Comparing these results with those of 2015, it would appear that the overall percentage of unsuccessful prosecutions has remained pretty static, but Northern Ireland still has an alarmingly high number of failed prosecutions whereas the number of Scottish cases resulting in a fine has been halved.

 

TV Licence unnecessary prosecutions, 2016
Countries England  Scotland Wales Northern Ireland TOTAL
Prosecutions 159,573 11* 12,055 5,028 176,667
unsuccessful 18,808 5* 1,123 1,375 21,312
Percentage 11.7% 45.4%* 9.3% 27.3% 12%

*excluding out of court disposal

 

FINE

English evaders pay twice as much as their counterparts in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

 

TV Licence fine, 2016
Countries England  Wales Scotland Northern Ireland
Average Fine £188 £123 £96  £86

 

Fines, at least in England and Wales, are based on the person’s income. The maximum fine is £1,000 (except in Jersey where it’s £500 and in Guernsey where it’s £2,000). In England and Wales, the fine should represent between 25% and 125% of the evader’s weekly income, depending on the duration of the offence and other factors. For example, if a guilty plea is made, a reduction will apply, reflecting the stage at which it is made.

At the first reasonable opportunity: 1/3 off

Where a trial date has been set: 1/4 off

At the door of the court: 1/10 off

 

For the sake of a theoretical average gain of £43 (the difference between the fine in England and the price of buying a TV licence in the first place), the BBC is happy to relentlessly chase people and press charges, which is far from free. The BBC sent, under the TV licensing trade mark, 51.5 million letters[1] in 2015. These letters were followed with around 3.9 million visits[2] by TV licence officers. But, considering that court records show that less than 35% of TV licence fines are actually recovered[3], it would appear that prosecuting people is a long way away from being a profitable business.

 

 

PRISON

TV licence evasion is not punishable by a period of imprisonment per se. It’s only when convicted evaders refuse to pay the fine they were ordered to pay, or are incapable of paying it, that a period of imprisonment may be imposed as a “last resort”. This, however, is an all-round lose/lose situation: the BBC gains nothing in the way of monies and it costs the English and Welsh tax payer an average of £89 per day[4] to keep one person behind bars. It costs £158 per day to the Northern Irish tax payer.[5] The last prison stint for TV licence fine default in Scotland was in 2008.

 

Prison for TV licence fine default, 2016
Countries England  & Wales Scotland Northern Ireland TOTAL
number of prisoners  29:

12 females, 17 males

0 61:

32 females, 29 males

90
 
duration of stay 21 days (average) 0 7.8 days

 

CONCLUSION

It’s interesting to note that 2016 was the 70th anniversary of this government endorsed extortion[6]. After crying that the so-called loophole was slowly draining the BBC’s funding, its power to charge and barge in to homes (under the TV licensing umbrella) was recently extended on the 6th September 2016, to cover iPlayer. However, it would appear there were 25.6M TV licences in the UK in 2015-2016 (most recent data available[7]). This number has been on the rise since 2010 (oldest available data). So, have we been lied to? And where is the debate in Parliament on the future of the TV licence fee, scheduled for the 8th May 2017, but cancelled on the 3rd of May due to the snap election?

 

The BBC sent 51.8 million items of mail last year. This was follow up with 3.3 million visits.

TV licensing wants to add: “It’s only right we do everything we can to ensure people buy a licence, and letters are a cost effective way to get people to pay. We use letters where we don’t have email addresses and all our mailing campaigns generate substantially more revenue than they cost. We visit unlicensed properties which have ignored our earlier attempts to make contact. Our work to get people licensed at an earlier stage has been successful and we have encouraged the majority of delayers to pay at an earlier stage, prior to receiving a visit.”

 

These findings are backed by the following Freedom of Information requests:

 

FOI 112134 and 111716 Ministry of Justice for England and Wales

FOI-17-00955 and FOI 2017 218 Justice Analytical Service for Scotland

FOI 047/17 Court and Tribunals Service, Northern Ireland

 

 

DETAIL:

Number of people proceeded against vs convicted at magistrates court in England in 2016

 

Police force area

 

Total

Prosecutions

FEMALE MALE Total Guilty Total

Unsuccessful

prosec guilty prosec guilty
1. Cleveland 28,984 20,957 19,605 8,027 7,381 26,986 1,998
2. Warwickshire 24,062 17,181 15,354 6,881 5,965 21,319 2,743
3. London 19,529 13,375 10,774 6,154 4,479 15,253 4,276
4. Greater Manchester 11,803 8,584 7,769 3,219 2,826 10,595 1,208
5. Sussex 6,673 4,784 4,274 1,889 1,673 5,947 726
6. Cheshire 6,497 4,739 4,367 1,758 1,556 5,923 574
7. Lancashire 6,352 4,465 4,062 1,887 1,665 5,727 625
8. Merseyside 4,536 3,245 3,255 1,291 1,095 4,350 186
9. Dorset 4,162 2,875 2,594 1,287 1,139 3,733 429
10. Cambridgeshire 4,044 2,865 2,489 1,179 1,011 3,500 544
11. West Yorkshire 3,379 2,385 2,138 994 857 2,995 384
12. Avon & Somerset 3,352 2,353 2,141 999 892 3,033 319
13. Hampshire 3,262 2,281 2,027 981 837 2,864 398
14. Kent 3,217 2,371 2,038 846 669 2,707 510
15. South Yorkshire 3,099 2,216 2,022 883 773 2,795 304
16. Northumbria 3,076 2,226 2,091 850 763 2,854 222
17. Thames Valley 2,293 1,585 1,324 708 557 1,881 412
18. Nottinghamshire 1,801 1,300 1,118 501 414 1,532 269
19. Humberside 1,523 1,132 1,034 391 340 1,374 149
20. Norfolk 1,461 965 838 496 419 1,257 204
21. West Midlands 1,351 961 900 390 357 1,257 94
22. West Mercia 1,324 917 802 407 336 1,138 186
23. Suffolk 1,265 857 751 408 345 1,096 169
24. Staffordshire 1,224 857 764 367 321 1,085 139
25. Durham 1,200 869 779 331 303 1,082 118
26. Hertfordshire 1,129 838 690 291
27. Bedfordshire 1,083 785 664 298 236 900 183
28. Derbyshire 1,052 721 619 331 284 903 149
29. Cumbria 1,050 753 682 297 268 950 100
30. Gloucestershire 1,047 715 622 332 283 905 142
31. Lincolnshire 1,005 664 574 341 264 838 167
32. Wiltshire 904 637 532 267 216 748 156
33. Leicestershire 886 600 499 286 229 728 158
34. Surrey 859 567 457 292 218 675 184
35. Northamptonshire 664 447 377 217 186 563 101
36. North Yorkshire 255 179 157 76 64 221 34
37. Essex 136 86 66 50 40 106 30
38. Devon & Cornwall 34 15 14 19 14 28 6
TOTAL 159,573 113,352 101,263 46,221 39,502 140,765 18,808
NOT GUILTY 12,089 6,791 18,808

 

 

Number of people proceeded against vs convicted at magistrates court in England in 2015

 

Police force area

 

TOTAL

Prosecutions

FEMALE MALE TOTAL

Unsuccessful

Prosecuted Convicted Prosecuted Convicted
1. Metropolitan Police 25,076 16,611 13,069 8,465 6,464 5,543
2. Warwickshire 14,560 10,402 9,164 4,158 3,581 1,815
3. Greater Manchester 12,965 9,371 8,527 3,594 3,156 1,282
4. West Yorkshire 11,990 8,391 7,679 3,599 3,236 1,075
5. Northumbria 9,072 6,629 6,217 2,443 2,221 634
6. South Yorkshire 7,562 5,298 4,836 2,264 2,023 703
7. Merseyside 7,226 5,427 4,939 1,799 1,591 696
8. Lancashire 7,168 5,021 4,608 2,147 1,902 658
9. Cambridgeshire 6,305 4,494 3,985 1,811 1,553 767
10. Kent 4,896 3,583 3,092 1,313 1,107 697
11. Hampshire 4,808 3,353 2,859 1,455 1,218 731
12. Nottinghamshire 4,641 3,346 2,970 1,295 1,143 528
13. Humberside 4,584 3,283 3,037 1,301 1,162 385
14. Dorset, Devon & Cornwall 4,334 3,000 2,672 1,334 1,153 509
15. Cleveland 4,096 3,042 2,865 1,054 959 272
16. Durham 4,050 2,888 2,671 1,162 1,062 317
17. Avon and Somerset 3,997 2,790 2,563 1,207 1,060 374
18. Thames Valley 3,921 2,617 2,183 1,304 1,064 674
19. West Mercia 3,087 2,176 1,946 911 791 350
20. Staffordshire 2,884 2,019 1,865 865 777 242
21. Derbyshire 2,811 1,945 1,711 866 763 337
22. Cheshire 2,519 1,798 1,650 721 634 235
23. Leicestershire 2,464 1,638 1,384 826 666 414
24. Sussex 2,412 1,736 1,484 676 553 375
25. Lincolnshire 2,224 1,449 1,310 775 676 238
26. Northamptonshire 2,117 1,452 1,252 665 540 325
27. Norfolk 1,868 1,256 1,112 612 554 202
28. Suffolk 1,648 1,114 996 534 461 191
29. Hertfordshire 1,536 1,105 934 431 353 249
30. Surrey 1,382 935 789 447 365 228
31. Bedfordshire 1,321 901 718 420 330 273
32. North Yorkshire 1,245 850 757 395 325 163
33. Cumbria 1,127 837 773 290 261 93
34. Gloucestershire 1,010 717 612 293 254 144
35. Wiltshire 924 615 535 309 272 117
36. Essex 114 69 55 45 34 25
37. West Midlands 22 17 16 5 5 1
 TOTAL 173,966 122,175 107,835 51,791 44,269 21,862
NOT GUILTY 14,340 7,522

 

 

WALES PER POLICE FORCE AREA

 

Number of people proceeded against vs convicted in Wales 2016

 

Police force area TOTAL

Prosecuted

Female Male TOTAL

unsuccessful

Prosecuted Convicted Prosecuted Convicted
1. South Wales 9,271 6,633 6,068 2,638 2,379 824
2. North Wales 1,753 1,226 1,102 527 474 177
3. Dyfed-Powys 1,028 669 602 359 304 122
4. Gwent 3 3 3 0 0 0
 TOTAL 12,055 8,531 7,775 3,524 3,157 1,123
NOT GUILTY 756 367

 

Number of people proceeded against vs convicted in Wales 2015

 

Police force area TOTAL

Prosecuted

Female Male TOTAL

unsuccessful

Prosecuted Convicted Prosecuted Convicted
1. South Wales 11,893 8,370 7,624 3,523 3,108 1,161
2. North Wales 2,238 1,621 1,429 617 541 268
3. Dyfed-Powys 1,248 831 753 417 355 140
4. Gwent 4 1 1 3 3 0
 TOTAL 15,383 10,823 9,807 4,560 4,007 1,569
NOT GUILTY 1,016 553

 

 

NORTHERN IRELAND PER DIVISION

Number of people proceeded against vs convicted for an offence of ‘No TV licence’ by court division

Northern Ireland, 2016

Court office Total

prosecuted

Female Male TOTAL

unsuccessful

Prosecuted Convicted Prosecuted Convicted
Laganside (Belfast) 1,512 1,135 878 377 277 357
Newtownards 395 272 199 123 86 110
Downpatrick 148 103 77 45 34 37
Craigavon 270 200 141 70 50 79
Armagh 69 47 32 22 14 23
Banbridge (at Newry) 83 54 41 29 19 23
Omagh 168 122 87 46 29 52
Strabane 68 51 41 17 14 13
Antrim 190 121 81 69 48 61
Londonderry 557 431 320 126 85 152
Enniskillen 92 72 47 20 13 32
Coleraine 233 154 110 79 58 65
Newry 273 183 117 90 59 97
Limavady 97 72 58 25 19 20
Magherafelt 107 67 47 40 31 29
Ballymena 221 154 113 67 55 53
Lisburn 308 235 160 73 49 99
Dungannon 226 157 109 69 46 71
Total 5,017* 3,630 2,658 1,387 986 1,373
NOT GUILTY 972 401

* including 11 people of unknown gender

 

Number of people proceeded against vs convicted for an offence of ‘No TV licence’ by court division Northern Ireland, 2015

 

 

Division TOTAL

Prosecuted

Female Male TOTAL

unsuccessful

Prosecuted Convicted Prosecuted Convicted
1. Belfast 1,820 1,338 1,012 480 337 469
2. Londonderry 912 637 451 274 195 265
3. Fermanagh & Tyrone 874 592 375 281 203 296
4. Antrim 730 509 352 220 157 220
5. Craigavon 561 416 285 145 97 179
6. Ards 549 379 275 169 125 148
7. Armagh & South Down 459 323 213 136 95 151
 TOTAL 5,905* 4,194 2,963 1,705 1,209 1,728
NOT GUILTY 1,231 496

* including 6 people of unknown gender

 

 

 

 

SCOTLAND PER LOCAL AUTHORITY

 

People receiving a non-court disposal for offences under Section 363(2)&(4) of the Communications Act 2003, by local authority and gender.
Local authority 2015-16
Female Male All
Glasgow City 1,482 523 2,005
South Lanarkshire 632 250 882
East Ayrshire 547 227 774
Edinburgh, City of 472 174 646
Fife 467 171 638
Renfrewshire 349 132 481
North Lanarkshire 310 97 407
Falkirk 242 108 350
South Ayrshire 214 92 306
West Lothian 199 78 277
West Dunbartonshire 178 58 236
Clackmannanshire 119 53 172
Dundee City 104 44 148
Stirling 111 31 142
Aberdeen City 71 36 107
Inverclyde 64 27 91
Highland 31 27 58
Aberdeenshire 36 16 52
Angus 36 10 46
Perth & Kinross 27 10 37
Not Known 20 10 30
Scottish Borders 17 8 25
Dumfries & Galloway 5 4 9
Moray 8 1 9
Total Scotland 5,741 2,187 7,928

 

Main result of proceedings:  
Fiscal Fines issued   7,926
Fiscal Fixed Penalty 2

 

People prosecuted in Justice of the Peace courts, where the main charge was under Section 363(2)&(4) of the Communications Act 2003, by result, local authority and gender
Local Authority 2015-16
Female Male All
Guilty Guilty
East Ayrshire 0 1 1
Edinburgh, City of 1 0 1
Fife 1 1 2
Glasgow City 4 0 4
North Lanarkshire 1 0 1
South Lanarkshire 1 0 1
West Dunbartonshire 0 1 1
Total prosecuted 8 3 11

 

Main result of proceedings:  
Admonished 5
Total Fines issued   6

 

Non court disposals where the main offence was under the Communications Act 2003, section 363(2)&(4), by local authority area, Scotland, 2014-2015
Local Authority ALL FEMALE MALE
1. Glasgow City 1,451 1,005 446
2. South Lanarkshire 650 439 211
3. Fife 493 335 158
4. North Lanarkshire 324 241 83
5. Renfrewshire 298 205 93
6. Edinburgh, City of 258 167 91
7. East Ayrshire 248 176 72
8. Dundee City 179 124 55
9. Falkirk 174 116 58
10. West Lothian 141 92 49
11. Clackmannanshire 108 77 31
12. East Lothian 85 55 30
13. West Dunbartonshire 67 43 24
14. South Ayrshire 58 35 23
15. Inverclyde 58 45 13
16. Angus 49 35 14
17. Stirling 44 36 8
18. Perth & Kinross 42 26 16
19. Highland 31 23 8
20. Aberdeen City 24 13 11
21. Aberdeenshire 19 10 9
22. Moray 11 9 2
23. Eilean Siar 5 2 3
24. Shetland Islands 4 1 3
25. Scottish Borders 3 1 2
26. Dumfries & Galloway 3 3
27. Argyll & Bute 1 1
28. Orkney Islands
29. North Ayrshire
Unknown 20 13 7
Total 4,848 3,328 1,520

 

 

PEOPLE PROSECUTED IN SCOTTISH COURTS where the main offence was under the Communications Act 2003, section 363(2)&(4), by local authority area, 2014-2015
Local Authority TOTAL

Prosecuted

FEMALE

guilty

MALE

Guilty

Not Guilty
Glasgow City 5 3 2
North Lanarkshire 3 1 1 1
Dundee City 2 1 1
Renfrewshire 2 1 1
Fife 1 1
West Dunbartonshire 1 1
West Lothian 1 1
Total 15 7 5 3

[1] http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-administering-the-licence-fee-AB20

[2] Idem

[3] https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/445844/_45__2015_04_24_-_BBC_RESPONSE_TO_CONSULTATION.pdf

[4] This average is based on a disclosure from the Ministry of Justice that it costs £32,510 per annum to house a UK prisoner. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/563326/costs-per-place-cost-per-prisoner-2015-16.pdf

[5] http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2016/12/05/news/keeping-a-prisoner-in-northern-ireland-costs-same-as-night-at-savoy–817007/

[6] People’s TV viewing is subject to a flat tax since June 1946

[7] http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/ss/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheadername1=content-type&blobheadervalue1=application%2Fpdf&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1370006333028&ssbinary=true

Advertisements

15 thoughts on “TV licence Overview 2016

  1. I got back one morning from taking dog out to find someone knocking at my flat door, at about 8am, he made out he was scared of dogs so I put him in saying go as I did, he pushed the door out of my grip and as quick as he had done it I pulled him back with such force I never knew I had straight into the side of the communal stairs. I got in his face while he was still on the floor. Appart from the police been called and me refusing to step out the door but telling them I wanted it registering as a disability hate crime, and that he tried to illegally enter the property! When a second officer came into the communal area straight away he called the other one over after a minute the second officer came up to my door and said that they were going to leave and it was a civil dispute. If what I said was true then it is likely that you acted just within the grounds of reasonable force. I said reasonale force equals still breathing unreasonable force not breathing. That was over 4 months ago and nothing has happened since. I have my TV aerial still connected to listen to football matches and that is not illegal.

    Like

      1. The poster said they listen to football, not watch on TV. The poster is quite correct that no license is required for that.

        Like

  2. The reason I believe ,they will not drop the licence fee is because the BBC is a political platform for the government, , and in keeping it it boulsters the coffers to have us pay for their political adgenda’s,

    Like

    1. Maybe, but there are not a political agreement on this issue inside the government. MP Andrew Bridgen is happy to try bringing the BBC down. Others, who are jealous because top brass at the BBC earns more than them, will follow.

      Like

  3. I enjoy one of the very few benefitsof ageing as I am old enough to not pay a TV license but I still think it is iniquitous. There’s no doubt it is a tax and for what? Biased left-wing news, a non-stop menu of repeats, vastly over-remunerated presenters/’comedians’/talk show hosts etc and sport, sport,sport.. I seldom watch any of it.

    Like

    1. Good for you. Yes it’s officially a tax. And the free TV licences are not free, the taxpayer gets the bill, and did you know TV licensing reward their TV licence officers by giving them a 20 pounds commission for everyone they ‘sell’?

      Like

  4. USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Portugal and the Netherlands don’t need TV Taxes to “entertain” their public. Neither do we. In Australia’s and New Zealand’s case their Governments found other ways to fund it without forcing people to pay. Canada have never had a tax. They make our “TV Licence Fee” look unnecessary. The BBC/Capita spies are like something written from an Orwell novel. Australia and NZ look more Liberal than us in comparison. At least they don’t send over intimidating men to knock on your door!

    What the Government should do is turn the BBC into an opt in subscription service and test the public to see whether they truly support it. If it swims then they should obviously keep it going as a subscription service. If it sinks then privatise and commercialise it…or simply remove the TV Tax and make it legal for anyone to watch TV for free and find alternative methods! Our taxes are being further wasted for these pointless court cases. Nobody should have to be imprisoned for simply watching the TV. The world see’s us as this “Liberal” and “tolerant” country, but we aren’t when it comes to TV!

    Now is the perfect time to start getting everyone on the streets and kicking up a fuss and bring it into the public consciousness. It’s a cross political issue. It’s even an anti-establishment issue. I think many people want it debated and want some change. It’s about time.

    Like

  5. Please read this carefully,it will contain the very crux of the argument which will best serve your case!
    The BBC License is actually historically wrong for this reason!

    When ITV first came along,the advent of Commercial TV Stations began in the U.K. The BBC actually plough a lot of money back into making new Productions,but the point is,its not the public that should pay the BBC,Its all the Advertisement Selling TV Stations that should be paying the BBC,for the following obvious reasons.

    1. They take viewers away from watching the BBC Channels,and they make money from the total amount of viewers who watch the channels.

    When one Million Viewers watch ITV or any Commercial Channel,then each Advert will earn £36,000 per 30 seconds,10 Adverts in a row will earn £360,000,therefore the public are earning the TV Channels several millions per hour,for instance Channel 4 brings in around £42,000,000 per week.

    2,000,000 then the advert rate doubles to £72,000 per ad. So the Viewer is not only earning billions for the TV Channels, but the BBC are blindly chastising the public and fining them if you like for watching the Box.

    Now its the Commercial TV Channels that should be rewarding the public and paying the licence,even as they should be paying the BBC for stealing their viewers away from them.

    This is fair. I Own a TV Channel Franchise so i had to do my research whilst creating the BBC,SO IF YOU EVER NEED ANY EVIDENCE TO DOCUMENT YOUR CASE,PLEASE DONT HESITATE TO GET IN TOUCH.

    Finally I worked out how much it would cost all the TV Channels to chip in and pay the license fee,so please give the Government this knowledge so they can wake up when the BBC discovers they are not wearing any clothes either!

    IF One Hundred Channels contributed to pay the BBC License the entire sum would be paid for within a mere 4 hours of Advertisement broadcast time!

    Phew! Flipping heck get Real BBC,OFCOM & Government whom i already gave this information to,and get real,make the TV Channels pay,for this is the only justice!

    Like

    1. I like your point, but you forget that the average BBC viewer is s snob who thinks adverts would spoil the viewing and even stain the content. They are of course unaware that the BBC does advertisement (blatant and disguised). The other thing is that finding new companies to suddenly advertise on the BBC (as otherwise it will just steal profits from the other channels) would be a big ask. If you can convince me better, I’m happy to listen.

      Like

  6. I own my TV not the BBC.i will watch what and when I want. The whole world is all about money. Who ever invented fuckin money. I have been married for 13 years and I have a 24 year old son. My wife has no children she would give anything just to be a mother and for someone to call her mummy. For some unknown reason she cannot get pregnant. We have no money and can’t have ivf on the NHS because I have a child from a previous relationship. Because of money my wife will live here life and go to her grave childless and have never been a mummy. She is only 37. Money ?.

    Like

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s